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(;GM[1]FF[4]CA[gb2312]AP[CGoban:3]ST[2] RU[Chinese]SZ[19]KM[7.50]TM[3600]OT[5x60 byo-yomi] PW[kakaka2]PB[PorkyKing]WR[4k]DT[2007-02-18]PC[The KGS Go Server at http://www.gokgs.com/]RE[W+Resign] ;B[pd]BL[3596.72]C[kakaka2 [4k\]: hi PorkyKing [?\]: hello ] ;W[pp]WL[3593.713]C[PorkyKing [?\]: enjoy the game ] ;B[dd]BL[3591.68] ;W[cp]WL[3590.228] ;B[ep]BL[3589.054]C[kakaka2 [4k\]: you 2 ] ;W[eq]WL[3583.145] ;B[dp]BL[3582.706] ;W[dq]WL[3579.081] ;B[co]BL[3581.644] ;W[fq]WL[3576.42] ;B[bp]BL[3554.011] ;W[cq]WL[3572.381] ;B[cj]BL[3545.661] ;W[fc]WL[3563.953] ;B[df]BL[3530.098] ;W[db]WL[3553.732]C[missbear [4d\]: these two stronger players, one of them will lose the hope of playoff missbear [4d\]: can ren ] ;B[cc]BL[3436.849] ;W[ic]WL[3550.523] ;B[qj]BL[3384.274] ;W[qn]WL[3507.588]C[wenda [?\]: xiong, it's formal match? missbear [4d\]: yes missbear [4d\]: for west missbear [4d\]: they are at least our level wenda [?\]: kakaka2 is 4k? missbear [4d\]: do you believe rank?????? missbear [4d\]: rank means nothing wenda [?\]: when could i get rank? missbear [4d\]: you check our his qipu icefire [1d\]: then I don't believe him missbear [4d\]: you play with ranked player ] ;B[mc]BL[3315.912]C[icefire [1d\]: if a 4d tries to be a 4k, I doubt about his Ren Ping ] ;W[qd]WL[3485]C[missbear [4d\]: you beat 8k, then you will be 7k ] ;B[qc]BL[3296.888] ;W[qe]WL[3482.088] ;B[rc]BL[3286.224] ;W[pe]WL[3476.312] ;B[od]BL[3284.765] ;W[qh]WL[3474.526] ;B[oi]BL[3280.68] ;W[og]WL[3471.795]C[wenda [?\]: I've played with several ranked player, wenda [?\]: but I still didn't get my rank missbear [4d\]: that's because you choose your setting to be not ranked missbear [4d\]: not it's ranked ] ;B[rh]BL[3239.943]C[wenda [?\]: oh missbear [4d\]: it was wenda[-\] before, missbear [4d\]: the [-\] means not ranked ] ;W[ri]WL[3459.096] ;B[qi]BL[3236.827] ;W[rj]WL[3457.021]C[missbear [4d\]: start fighting here wenda [-\]: w seems better in this firgh wenda [-\]: fight ] ;B[ph]BL[3050.072] ;W[qg]WL[3454.739] ;B[rg]BL[3023.636] ;W[qk]WL[3440.511] ;B[pg]BL[3014.048]C[wenda [-\]: I think b shouldn't S12, ] ;W[qf]WL[3438.129] ;B[pk]BL[3012.514] ;W[ql]WL[3423.92] ;B[oe]BL[2968.481] ;W[rf]WL[3421.37]C[missbear [4d\]: white get cash and senta wenda [-\]: what's senta? missbear [4d\]: xian shou icefire [1d\]: sente missbear [4d\]: i c missbear [4d\]: thanks, icefire icefire [1d\]: :) ] ;B[pf]BL[2897.515]C[wenda [-\]: it's a English word? icefire [1d\]: b should play s14 then he gets sente missbear [4d\]: if i were black, i prefer p14 better ] ;W[jp]WL[3393.05]C[missbear [4d\]: sente is japanese ] ;B[or]BL[2890.88]C[missbear [4d\]: most of the go words are japanese ] ;W[pr]WL[3373.356]C[wenda [-\]: oh, i c ] ;B[oq]BL[2864.189] ;W[pq]WL[3369.489] ;B[lq]BL[2862.294] ;W[kr]WL[3366.129]C[wenda [-\]: u'r knowledgeable bear really ] ;B[lr]BL[2844.813]C[missbear [4d\]: thank you ] ;W[kq]WL[3358.664] ;B[lo]BL[2836.387] ;W[kn]WL[3355.881] ;B[ln]BL[2827.168] ;W[km]WL[3352.312]C[missbear [4d\]: it looks like a long game wenda [-\]: I prefer w ] ;B[dn]BL[2773.545] ;W[ej]WL[3346.46]C[guava [4d?\]: why this guy using a 4k account? icefire [1d\]: immature? password [3d\]: landmine for sure missbear [4d\]: because low rank id can confuse people guava [4d?\]: seems bear can give him 6h easily missbear [4d\]: kao, white can beat me easily ] ;B[dk]BL[2675.283]C[guava [4d?\]: i do see " missbear beat this guy 6h" in his record ] ;W[fe]WL[3323.442] ;B[gd]BL[2671.032] ;W[fd]WL[3317.603]C[wenda [-\]: who is kakaka2, bear? ] ;B[hb]BL[2621.819]C[missbear [4d\]: not sure missbear [4d\]: some one strong ] (;W[hd]WL[3309.858] ;B[gc]BL[2608.643] ;W[ge]WL[3304.878] ;B[fb]BL[2606.876] ;W[ec]WL[3302.09] ;B[jb]BL[2589.211] ;W[if]WL[3292.66] ;B[fg]BL[2572.394] ;W[ek]WL[3287.372] ;B[ih]BL[2568.061]C[wenda [-\]: come on, I just said u're knowledgeable bear ] ;W[kd]WL[3259.572]C[wenda [-\]: u must know his detail missbear [4d\]: they use m+ ] ;B[lb]BL[2529.199]C[missbear [4d\]: then that means they don't wanna reveal their identity wenda [-\]: u can take off their M+ ] ;W[jh]WL[3245.795]C[missbear [4d\]: i don't wanna do that ] ;B[ii]BL[2518.851]C[missbear [4d\]: we have professional m+ taking off team missbear [4d\]: hehe ] ;W[ig]WL[3228.654]C[missbear [4d\]: it's their job wenda [-\]: check their IP address ? ] ;B[hg]BL[2486.4] ;W[hf]WL[3223.66] ;B[gg]BL[2474.314] ;W[gi]WL[3216.42] ;B[di]BL[2415.139]C[missbear [4d\]: ABC is showing "cast away" ] ;W[fn]WL[3186.871]C[missbear [4d\]: whiel we are using internet to play missbear [4d\]: hehe ] ;B[fm]BL[2365.477] ;W[em]WL[3182.74] ;B[en]BL[2363.155]C[wenda [-\]: w is strong.... ] ;W[gm]WL[3168.998] ;B[fl]BL[2361.658] ;W[el]WL[3166.878]C[missbear [4d\]: i told ya ] ;B[gl]BL[2359.315] ;W[hk]WL[3144.526]C[wenda [-\]: I mean his idea is strong... ] ;B[gn]BL[2347.055]C[wenda [-\]: not sure for his result ] ;W[fo]WL[3142.027]C[password [3d\]: w 94 seems strange ] ;B[hl]BL[2233.68] ;W[ik]WL[3138.037]C[guava [4d?\]: b g6 was bad guava [4d?\]: if b h8 1st, b can G5 wenda [-\]: if pork lose again, he may lose the chance to go out the west area? password [3d\]: guess so password [3d\]: who is porkyking? jiapc [3d\]: H7 eat this stone ba jiapc [3d\]: G10 has a cut jiapc [3d\]: H5 has a sente jiapc [3d\]: can make alive inside, i think ] ;B[kg]BL[1986.848]C[jiapc [3d\]: hmm wenda [-\]: should be alive wenda [-\]: w is weak outside ] ;W[jg]WL[3065.629]C[jiapc [3d\]: L13, why? ] ;B[jj]BL[1975.332] ;W[jk]WL[3060.939] ;B[kj]BL[1966.889]C[wenda [-\]: game almost over ] ;W[kf]WL[3045.941]C[missbear [4d\]: wokao jiapc [3d\]: dont feel B can kill W here missbear [4d\]: too risky le bah? guava [4d?\]: F4 ergent ] ;B[le]BL[1917.705]C[guava [4d?\]: b g6 too careless ] ;W[ke]WL[3021.21] ;B[jc]BL[1908.604] ;W[jd]WL[3016.445] ;B[hc]BL[1897.081] ;W[ib]WL[2983.253] ;B[ia]BL[1893.353] ;W[id]WL[2981.507]C[jiapc [3d\]: they play too fast ] ;B[gf]BL[1886.983] ;W[eb]WL[2966.538]C[gtgt002 [1k?\]: kao gtgt002 [1k?\]: so many fake players ] ;B[ga]BL[1863.774]C[guava [4d?\]: if b can eat this group, amazing job! wenda [-\]: alive already jiapc [3d\]: not really ] ;W[lc]WL[2913.62]C[guava [4d?\]: b showed a very deep read here, but some other place, too careless! wqedge [1k\]: live ] ;B[nb]BL[1768.296]C[wenda [-\]: seems good ] ;W[cb]WL[2900.569] ;B[bb]BL[1765.07] ;W[ea]WL[2860.605] ;B[ca]BL[1762.261] ;W[fa]WL[2857.227] ;B[ja]BL[1735.544] ;W[gb]WL[2854.862]C[guava [4d?\]: these r all ko threat littlebro [3d\]: even i can make w alive andyusa [4d\]: white alive and will win littlebro [3d\]: c19 is a desperate mv i am familiar with wenda [-\]: weiqilover? andyusa [4d\]: yes? missbear [4d\]: i saw an id: weiqihater earlier today ] ;B[gj]BL[1614.393]C[password [3d\]: haha andyusa [4d\]: haha hulai [1k\]: hahahaha. just won 1.5pts. jiapc [3d\]: what is going on! littlebro [3d\]: a ko b can never win jiapc [3d\]: but why this ko? jiapc [3d\]: don't you feel strange? wenda [-\]: how to say "da jie" in English password [3d\]: ko missbear [4d\]: ko andyusa [4d\]: white can answer jiapc [3d\]: play around G8, G6 places jiapc [3d\]: then go for L13 places ] ;W[gk]WL[2730.722] ;B[fb]BL[1601.874] ;W[bc]WL[2728.457] ;B[bd]BL[1599.806] ;W[gb]WL[2726.341]C[guava [4d?\]: why b don't H19? missbear [4d\]: no use ah ] ;B[fp]BL[1580.444] ;W[go]WL[2723.096]C[guava [4d?\]: why no use? ] ;B[fb]BL[1569.043]C[guava [4d?\]: i am too weak to read that out missbear [4d\]: white l18 missbear [4d\]: then n16 andyusa [4d\]: N16 sente missbear [4d\]: n16 sente guava [4d?\]: b m19 ] ;W[kb]WL[2708.314]C[missbear [4d\]: then m13 ] ;B[ka]BL[1565.376] ;W[gb]WL[2705.544]C[andyusa [4d\]: m14 missbear [4d\]: you will see missbear [4d\]: they will play the sequence out guava [4d?\]: m19 is better than L19 littlebro [3d\]: w should g4 andyusa [4d\]: L19 mistake? guava [4d?\]: w had M19 later andyusa [4d\]: L17 is better? ] ;B[ha]BL[1488.651] ;W[kc]WL[2702.598] ;B[la]BL[1487.529]C[missbear [4d\]: same thing bah? guava [4d?\]: w should M19! missbear [4d\]: now n16 missbear [4d\]: live jiapc [3d\]: not human go ] ;W[lg]WL[2680.909]C[andyusa [4d\]: I mean black play L17 instead of L19 ] ;B[kh]BL[1485.621] ;W[ki]WL[2677.757]C[andyusa [4d\]: just bet on that KO wqedge [1k\]: why L17????!!!! ] ;B[lh]BL[1479.855]C[wqedge [1k\]: crazy ] ;W[md]WL[2669.934]C[missbear [4d\]: over again jiapc [3d\]: O16? missbear [4d\]: poor porky andyusa [4d\]: missbear missbear [4d\]: yes? andyusa [4d\]: private talk? jiapc [3d\]: just N15? password [3d\]: kao wenda [-\]: ko again? jiapc [3d\]: why can't N15? password [3d\]: what is bear and lover doing? ] ;B[me]BL[1380.046]C[jiapc [3d\]: N15 can work, i think ] ;W[mb]WL[2666.329] ;B[ma]BL[1378.514] ;W[nc]WL[2664.867]C[jiapc [3d\]: P18 password [3d\]: black too reluctant ] ;B[oc]BL[1363.848] ;W[mb]WL[2662.95]C[jiapc [3d\]: wokao ] ;B[fb]BL[1354.966]C[jiapc [3d\]: so big a ko ] ;W[ob]WL[2655.731] ;B[mc]BL[1353.461]C[littlebro [3d\]: 万劫不åºĦħ hulai [1k\]: n12 ] ;W[li]WL[2633.276] ;B[mh]BL[1345.821] ;W[mb]WL[2631.627]C[wenda [-\]: over jiapc [3d\]: the problem was jiapc [3d\]: why B has to kill that dragon? jiapc [3d\]: gave up too much to make this impossible deal wenda [-\]: it's not his orginal idea to give up so much littlebro [3d\]: that's life hulai [1k\]: o19 wenda [-\]: life is survival.... ] ;B[rk]BL[1243.035]C[hulai [1k\]: o19 jiapc [3d\]: clear the ko missbear [4d\]: take!!!!!!!!!!!!! missbear [4d\]: o19 ] ;W[na]WL[2601.917]C[jiapc [3d\]: then just G4 ] ;B[rl]BL[1234.51]C[password [3d\]: faint littlebro [3d\]: hmm wenda [-\]: ? jiapc [3d\]: what" andyusa [4d\]: hahaha jiapc [3d\]: T12 andyusa [4d\]: T12 ] ;W[qm]WL[2568.54]C[jiapc [3d\]: B plays human go? ] ;B[sj]BL[1231.537] ;W[gp]WL[2566.768]C[littlebro [3d\]: w nuts jiapc [3d\]: G4 was sente ah password [3d\]: spoon to spoon jiapc [3d\]: G4 big, nnd hulai [1k\]: G4 is huge. littlebro [3d\]: but not bigger hulai [1k\]: why not kill 6 black stones. jiapc [3d\]: why kill? jiapc [3d\]: kakaka 4k jiapc [3d\]: hehe guava [4d?\]: if B got G4 before and then make such exchange, still in the game wenda [-\]: kakaka2 only used 18 mins......... PorkyKing [?\]: thanks:) jiapc [3d\]: nx kakaka2 [4k\]: thx PorkyKing [?\]: bye hulai [1k\]: ?????? missbear [4d\]: nx password [3d\]: so why kakaka lost yesterday? jiapc [3d\]: kakaka played loose yesterday missbear [4d\]: because his oppo is really strong andyusa [4d\]: because lonewolf is niuer password [3d\]: is that lonewolf that strong? jiapc [3d\]: yesterday kakaka was leading guava [4d?\]: how do u know, andy? andyusa [4d\]: I bet lonewolf will be champoin of west division missbear [4d\]: we saw that game password [3d\]: missbear, do you think lonewolf would won championship? guava [4d?\]: niuer is weak jiapc [3d\]: hehe, lonewolf is andy's shi xiong ah missbear [4d\]: yes, lonewalf = final champ wenda [-\]: really? guava [4d?\]: how come no game record between longwolf-kakaka? password [3d\]: so you do think he's better than wy4251? wenda [-\]: u will meet him .. jiapc [3d\]: lonewolf kakaka2 [4k\]: hi guys kakaka2 [4k\]: thx 4 watching password [3d\]: hehe jiapc [3d\]: hi 4k kakaka2 [4k\]: i played bad this game password [3d\]: learned a lot wenda [-\]: good game kakaka2 [4k\]: the top group guava [4d?\]: nice job, 4k! kakaka2 [4k\]: incurred trouble unnecessiry ]) (;W[ib]C[kakaka2 [4k\]: i was lost concentration at that moment and played too fast missbear [4d\]: kakaka's reading is good missbear [4d\]: you used less than 18 min missbear [4d\]: niu ah wenda [-\]: better than bear kakaka2 [4k\]: regarding yesterday game with lonewolf kakaka2 [4k\]: he is strong missbear [4d\]: kao, bear= earth man kakaka2 [4k\]: but no good than wy4251 kakaka2 [4k\]: he's game is sticky wenda [-\]: bear = earth bear andyusa [4d\]: wy4251 is not human go andyusa [4d\]: he will learn a lesson kakaka2 [4k\]: but in details he is not so strong kakaka2 [4k\]: he is good in term of global game kakaka2 [4k\]: i think wy will be the no 1 wenda [-\]: lover, could you go out in your area? missbear [4d\]: is there any way to beat his cross start openning? andyusa [4d\]: yes wenda [-\]: how about bear? andyusa [4d\]: what do you mean, wenda? kakaka2 [4k\]: andyusa and bear bear good chance to win west no 1 andyusa [4d\]: no kakaka2 [4k\]: along with lonewolf andyusa [4d\]: lonewolf NO1 wenda [-\]: I mean if you could the the top 3 in your west area kakaka2 [4k\]: three of u r the best andyusa [4d\]: kakaka #2 andyusa [4d\]: me and bear fight for #3 missbear [4d\]: sigh kakaka2 [4k\]: ur flattering is a god gift for me in this new year kakaka2 [4k\]: thx wenda [-\]: hehe missbear [4d\]: west #3 is nothing andyusa [4d\]: why? wenda [-\]: bear is ready to fight for NO.2 missbear [4d\]: have to win 5 people to win the champ kakaka2 [4k\]: my point is, again, bear andy wolf are first three missbear [4d\]: which means impossible ]))
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