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JedyFly [7k\]: thats my question too JedyFly [7k\]: hummm... JedyFly [7k\]: w need to protect p15 and O10 JedyFly [7k\]: now b secures life and can take any of both daladim [8k\]: ya maybe JedyFly [7k\]: i hope i think i know...=P ] ;W[ed]WL[2589.923] ;B[nk]BL[3025.455]C[daladim [8k\]: i ll never understand dans Oldboyz [5k\]: now im curious about white plan B bratja: oh ] ;W[rh]WL[2564.242]C[bratja: b tai da le ] ;B[rg]BL[3019.257] ;W[si]WL[2560.688] ;B[jk]BL[3009.836] ;W[kk]WL[2557.647] ;B[jl]BL[3008.07] ;W[kl]WL[2552.678] ;B[km]BL[3002.647]C[JedyFly [7k\]: w ta na mer da bratja: bu shi JedyFly [7k\]: lao lao bratja: ? bratja: enrolation ? ;P ] ;W[lm]WL[2515.49]C[JedyFly [7k\]: Eh hahaha ] ;B[kn]BL[2996.677]C[JedyFly [7k\]: c manja um poco? bratja: mto poko Roto [7k\]: wha da mah tah deh eh? 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JedyFly [7k\]: hummmm curti bratja: wo hen hao, xie xie é a resposta normal bratja: seria estou mto bem obrigado JedyFly [7k\]: aaa por isso meu prof comprimentava os amigos Ni hao ni hao bratja: :) JedyFly [7k\]: dahora ingles2 [12k?\]: isso é chinês ? ] ;B[oe]BL[2903.274]C[bratja: é JedyFly [7k\]: é ingles2 [12k?\]: k ] ;W[ln]WL[2394.975] ;B[ko]BL[2895.958]C[JedyFly [7k\]: eu apostono b bratja: je game chuo le eriji198 [2d\]: w c13 sure win ] ;W[mo]WL[2340.153] ;B[nn]BL[2890.006]C[daladim [8k\]: not sure Oldboyz [5k\]: N9 group statut? ] ;W[mm]WL[2190.953] ;B[ce]BL[2858.388] ;W[bd]WL[2182.125] ;B[kb]BL[2789.027] ;W[ka]WL[2178.894] ;B[ic]BL[2787.145] ;W[jc]WL[2163.726] ;B[fd]BL[2782.387]C[bratja: w cant chicken ] ;W[ee]WL[2130.236] ;B[jd]BL[2778.727]C[bratja: yah ] ;W[hc]WL[2028.802] ;B[ib]BL[2774.915] ;W[ja]WL[2027.187] ;B[hb]BL[2773.371] ;W[gc]WL[2020.669] ;B[gb]BL[2764.721] ;W[fc]WL[2017.898] ;B[le]BL[2762.916]C[Oldboyz [5k\]: L12? Oldboyz [5k\]: oups no ] ;W[md]WL[1836.92] ;B[mf]BL[2754.717] ;W[kg]WL[1827.938] ;B[ef]BL[2635.982]C[andyusa [5d\]: ??? ] ;W[lh]WL[1752.995]C[LetItGo [2d\]: l14 insteadof n14 seems to work for b andyusa [5d\]: L12? halfsea [3d\]: spoon? coolbabe [5d\]: hehe andyusa [5d\]: big spoon andyusa [5d\]: great coolbabe [5d\]: dont want it t end there halfsea [3d\]: I know you meant it halfsea [3d\]: hehe coolbabe [5d\]: want a bit fun ] ;B[fe]BL[2568.002] ;W[ff]WL[1718.779] ;B[fg]BL[2534.956]C[missbear [4d\]: .............. missbear [4d\]: ........ missbear [4d\]: let me count count ] ;W[gf]WL[1663.989] ;B[df]BL[2526.5] ;W[bf]WL[1628.283]C[missbear [4d\]: white 80 pont weak missbear [4d\]: black ] ;B[be]BL[2481.497] ;W[ae]WL[1625.935] ;B[dd]BL[2473.621] ;W[dc]WL[1621.426] ;B[de]BL[2472.096] ;W[ec]WL[1618.648] ;B[bg]BL[2468.324]C[missbear [4d\]: at least 90+ ] ;W[mq]WL[1590.242] ;B[nq]BL[2448.596] ;W[mp]WL[1585.125] ;B[lr]BL[2446.912] ;W[bl]WL[1552.063] ;B[bk]BL[2441.605] ;W[ck]WL[1544.724] ;B[bm]BL[2439.889]C[missbear [4d\]: huh? ] ;W[dl]WL[1523.62]C[missbear [4d\]: black xiong han ] ;B[al]BL[2435.1]C[andyusa [5d\]: I don't think black has 90 points missbear [4d\]: now, no ] ;W[cm]WL[1507.801] ;B[dk]BL[2431.025] ;W[bl]WL[1504.976] ;B[kj]BL[2428.809]C[missbear [4d\]: black suiciding ] ;W[ki]WL[1499.113] ;B[cl]BL[2427.833]C[Kanjis: I count 93 for w andyusa [5d\]: white almost 85 points missbear [4d\]: black's terrirory might be history soon ] ;W[il]WL[1428.251] ;B[jm]BL[2423.689] ;W[bl]WL[1426.253] ;B[rl]BL[2415.207]C[andyusa [5d\]: white has tons of KO threats LetItGo [2d\]: b has a lot of threat ] ;W[rk]WL[1420.332] ;B[cl]BL[2411.265]C[missbear [4d\]: haha missbear [4d\]: you two, speak at the same time missbear [4d\]: so let's who has more threats then andyusa [5d\]: white only need small ko threats jjermann [6k?\]: black about 4? missbear [4d\]: n2 missbear [4d\]: l3 ] ;W[oc]WL[1363.469] ;B[ob]BL[2406.818] ;W[bl]WL[1360.956]C[Kenshin333 [15k\]: L14 Oldboyz [5k\]: c17, m19J19 missbear [4d\]: there area ] ;B[pk]BL[2404.115] ;W[qk]WL[1357.613] ;B[cl]BL[2402.161]C[missbear [4d\]: is e13 big enough to call a threat? ] ;W[mr]WL[1311.974]C[andyusa [5d\]: of course LetItGo [2d\]: why answer q9?? ] ;B[os]BL[2370.668] ;W[qs]WL[1308.887]C[missbear [4d\]: p1? missbear [4d\]: waste of threat ah jjermann [6k?\]: S6 might give more threats? andyusa [5d\]: no jjermann [6k?\]: ok andyusa [5d\]: fake threat ] ;B[rn]BL[2304.229]C[missbear [4d\]: why? ] ;W[bl]WL[1294.969]C[andyusa [5d\]: b don't have to answer missbear [4d\]: which one fake threat? andyusa [5d\]: n2 Oldboyz [5k\]: t9 ] ;B[ok]BL[2276.356]C[jjermann [6k?\]: this one I meant as threat :) missbear [4d\]: p9 chou ] ;W[sk]WL[1272.044]C[andyusa [5d\]: but b answer because it's good for points ] ;B[cl]BL[2268.083]C[missbear [4d\]: p9 gives white more threat missbear [4d\]: now white can l3 ] ;W[no]WL[1237.363] ;B[ms]BL[2259.373] ;W[bl]WL[1234.378] ;B[co]BL[2254.743] ;W[bo]WL[1231.787] ;B[cl]BL[2252.838] ;W[kq]WL[1227.682] ;B[lq]BL[2239.888]C[missbear [4d\]: a lot of threat now ] ;W[bl]WL[1225.461]C[andyusa [5d\]: black lose ] ;B[cc]BL[2235.525] ;W[bc]WL[1221.63] ;B[cl]BL[2233.716] ;W[lp]WL[1217.53]C[missbear [4d\]: p9 tai chou ] ;B[kp]BL[2227.505] ;W[bl]WL[1215.543]C[jjermann [6k?\]: black still has M19,J19,L14 etc? hhj76 [4d\]: 黑的149手好奇怪阿, 好像在m12吃白就崩溃了阿 ] ;B[sg]BL[2219.644] ;W[sh]WL[1212.618] ;B[cl]BL[2216.185] ;W[kr]WL[1208.874] ;B[ls]BL[2214.409] ;W[bl]WL[1207.062]C[daladim [8k\]: why not t12 instead of t13 ? ] ;B[cb]BL[2206.182]C[daladim [8k\]: it would have make two threats ] ;W[bb]WL[1195.678] ;B[cl]BL[2204.35] ;W[ps]WL[1185.537] ;B[ns]BL[2201.412] ;W[bl]WL[1181.964]C[missbear [4d\]: right, daladim gao ] ;B[db]BL[2183.419] ;W[eb]WL[1177.017] ;B[cl]BL[2177.598] ;W[op]WL[1172.761] ;B[oo]BL[2175.292] ;W[bl]WL[1170.322]C[missbear [4d\]: too many threats here eriji198 [2d\]: how to show the number of moves, anyone pls help me? ] ;B[la]BL[2145.078]C[missbear [4d\]: can white j3? ] ;W[ma]WL[1159.88] ;B[cl]BL[2143.209]C[andyusa [5d\]: yes ] ;W[ks]WL[1148.701] ;B[op]BL[2140.82] ;W[bl]WL[1146.627]C[missbear [4d\]: then black no way to win the ko ] ;B[ia]BL[2137.118] ;W[la]WL[1143.227]C[jjermann [6k?\]: eriji198: it should be written on top missbear [4d\]: why not j3 ah ] ;B[cl]BL[2130.636] ;W[pb]WL[1105.563]C[andyusa [5d\]: spoon missbear [4d\]: ah? ] ;B[cj]BL[2110.298] ;W[ag]WL[1102.026]C[missbear [4d\]: what is this??????????????????????????????????????? daladim [8k\]: b sacrifices ? ] ;B[bh]BL[2097.843]C[andyusa [5d\]: this is fine ] ;W[dm]WL[1094.279] ;B[el]BL[2094.847]C[andyusa [5d\]: R18 missbear [4d\]: is this enough? ] ;W[qb]WL[1070.803] ;B[rc]BL[2092.187] ;W[rb]WL[1068.993]C[andyusa [5d\]: S18 ] ;B[rd]BL[2090.221] ;W[sc]WL[1065.221]C[andyusa [5d\]: then P19 ] ;B[qe]BL[2087.105]C[missbear [4d\]: seems like t17??????? Oldboyz [5k\]: lol halfsea [3d\]: ft ] ;W[cg]WL[1045.597]C[missbear [4d\]: t,t,t,t,t t17? andyusa [5d\]: t17? ] ;B[ad]BL[2077.603] ;W[ac]WL[1041.997] ;B[ch]BL[2070.319]C[missbear [4d\]: what happened? ] ;W[eg]WL[1026.924] ;B[dg]BL[2066.629] ;W[eh]WL[1021.927] ;B[dh]BL[2056.339] ;W[fh]WL[1015.866] ;B[gh]BL[2053.144]C[missbear [4d\]: now white dead le bah> missbear [4d\]: ? andyusa [5d\]: no andyusa [5d\]: count ] ;W[gg]WL[988.217] ;B[ei]BL[2049.243]C[daladim [8k\]: i count b +10 ] ;W[fg]WL[986.216] ;B[jq]BL[2036.62] ;W[sl]WL[981.273] ;B[rm]BL[2033.954]C[daladim [8k\]: ah no thats fewer than that missbear [4d\]: t17 is so classic a spoon missbear [4d\]: golden spoon ] ;W[af]WL[898.313] ;B[ah]BL[2028.262] ;W[da]WL[891.436] ;B[cf]BL[2025.41] ;W[ad]WL[889.555]C[andyusa [5d\]: white still 80 points ] ;B[an]BL[2018.044] ;W[ao]WL[874.65]C[missbear [4d\]: yah, but white lost the ko unconditionally ] ;B[am]BL[2000.559]C[andyusa [5d\]: b 95 points andyusa [5d\]: I didn't count dead stones andyusa [5d\]: so seems black 10 points on the board missbear [4d\]: if t17 goes to p19, white won? andyusa [5d\]: yes Kanjis: w as 107.5 missbear [4d\]: now, no yose le missbear [4d\]: no where to mkl le andyusa [5d\]: white still can try ] ;W[aq]WL[757.077] ;B[ds]BL[1989.833] ;W[cs]WL[755.331] ;B[es]BL[1988.124] ;W[hh]WL[754.747] ;B[gi]BL[1985.732]C[andyusa [5d\]: O19 andyusa [5d\]: D6 ] ;W[na]WL[722.47]C[andyusa [5d\]: T6 ] ;B[oa]BL[1979.595] ;W[dn]WL[715.957] ;B[en]BL[1976.788]C[hhj76 [4d\]: black lead more than 10 points Kenshin333 [15k\]: !!!!! Kenshin333 [15k\]: N18?? Kenshin333 [15k\]: ah no Kenshin333 [15k\]: ^^ Kanjis: b as 114 so I'd guess b +7 andyusa [5d\]: A2 ] ;W[bq]WL[679.144]C[missbear [4d\]: corner can bu ren du missbear [4d\]: b3 wrong missbear [4d\]: left black 2 threats akuseru [9k\]: b t18? miai4life [-\]: 3 threats? missbear [4d\]: b4 better coolbabe [5d\]: pan mian 13 mu ba ] ;B[sn]BL[1916.932] ;W[mn]WL[675.544] ;B[on]BL[1913.076]C[miai4life [-\]: oh, not 3 ] ;W[so]WL[671.01] ;B[jr]BL[1909.873] ;W[sm]WL[668.854]C[coolbabe [5d\]: shoot coolbabe [5d\]: 11 mu ] ;B[js]BL[1903.71]C[coolbabe [5d\]: 10 mu maybe halfsea [3d\]: you resign bah halfsea [3d\]: hehe coolbabe [5d\]: hehe coolbabe [5d\]: i can missbear [4d\]: haha, words mkl coolbabe [5d\]: if that can make u top8 coolbabe [5d\]: u sld win loser coolbabe [5d\]: then i will andyusa [5d\]: black 121 halfsea [3d\]: not possible le halfsea [3d\]: hehe ] ;W[lo]WL[611.115]C[missbear [4d\]: kao, these two missbear [4d\]: count please ah ] ;B[mc]BL[1893.099] ;W[lf]WL[606.574]C[missbear [4d\]: da qing ma qiao ] ;B[pe]BL[1886.385] ;W[mb]WL[598.547] ;B[]BL[1885.048] ;W[]WL[594.612]TW[aa][ba][ca][ea][fa][ga][ha][ia][ab][cb][db][fb][gb][hb][ib][kb][cc][ic][kc][fd][gd][hd][jd][kd][fe][ge][he][je][ke][le][hf][jf][kf][mf][hg][jg][lg][mg][jh][kh][ri][kj][lj][sj][lk][ll][ap][bp][qq][sq][ar][br][qr][rr][as][bs][ss]TB[pa][qa][ra][sa][pb][qb][rb][sb][oc][sc][od][pd][qd][sd][re][se][pf][qf][sf][cg][qg][ph][ai][bi][ci][di][aj][bj][dj][ej][fj][gj][hj][ak][ck][fk][gk][ik][bl][fl][gl][hl][il][fm][gm][hm][im][fn][gn][hn][in][jn][qn][eo][fo][go][ho][io][jo][ep][fp][gp][hp][ip][eq][gq][hq][iq][kq][fr][gr][hr][ir][kr][fs][gs][hs][is][ks]C[daladim [8k\]: chinese rules coolbabe [5d\]: 11 mu coolbabe [5d\]: good game indeed halfsea [3d\]: T17 yun le halfsea [3d\]: but this game no fun coolbabe [5d\]: kao halfsea [3d\]: you meant to lose halfsea [3d\]: no fun hehe coolbabe [5d\]: middle jiu gai chi le ni halfsea [3d\]: shi de halfsea [3d\]: save some time, hehe coolbabe [5d\]: u r top mkl halfsea [3d\]: en halfsea [3d\]: didn't play carefully coolbabe [5d\]: u did good halfsea [3d\]: coz no hope to be top 8 le andyusa [5d\]: halfsea coolbabe [5d\]: hehe halfsea [3d\]: ? andy? andyusa [5d\]: I adisapointed at your T17 coolbabe [5d\]: if no spoon at corner coolbabe [5d\]: u can win big halfsea [3d\]: I didn't see Q16 group was killed already coolbabe [5d\]: cow missbear [4d\]: T17, golden spoon coolbabe [5d\]: not disappointed at my not l12? ])
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