(;GM[1]FF[4]ST[2]RU[Chinese]OT[5x60 byo-yomi]AP[CGoban:3]SZ[19]CA[gb2312]DT[2006-10-18] PC[The KGS Go Server at http\://www.gokgs.com/]PB[Civ]BR[2k]PW[armodilla]WR[2d] KM[7.5]TM[1800]RE[W+34.50]MULTIGOGM[1] ;B[pd]BL[1796.49];W[dq]WL[1797.42]C[Civ [2k\]\: enjoy ];B[cd]BL[1779.48];W[ed]WL[1788.47] C[armodilla [2d?\]\: Good Luck ];B[gc]BL[1746.98];W[cc]WL[1779.37];B[dc]BL[1738.82] ;W[dd]WL[1773.89];B[ec]BL[1736.6];W[fc]WL[1759.66];B[cb]BL[1728.43];W[bc]WL[1699.93] ;B[fb]BL[1692.08]C[rider [4k\]\: pront, can do the switch? rider [4k\]\: need to switch the match ups. rider [4k\]\: Civ to play barry, windy play knight, windy claim. ] ;W[fd]WL[1573.8]C[rider [4k\]\: That was what 3 players here hope to get as best compromise. rider [4k\]\: Otherwise, 2 games by claims. ] ;B[bd]BL[1665.29]C[rider [4k\]\: All are 2 wins, so quite fair switch in match ups, but not sure how flexible / troublesome it is. pront [5k\]\: oh ] ;W[gb]WL[1505.35]C[pront [5k\]\: let me see... ];B[eb]BL[1653.07]C[rider [4k\]\: Otherwise, 2 games win by claim, this way, 1 real game, and 1 claim. ] ;W[hc]WL[1495.05]C[pront [5k\]\: Did Civ and barry agree? rider [4k\]\: yes, they hope, but don't know if can be done .. let me show you their conversation in room. ] ;B[pk]BL[1608.71]C[pront [5k\]\: sounds good to me. ];W[ie]WL[1464.5];B[pq]BL[1592.8] ;W[nc]WL[1437.56]C[rider [4k\]\: both players tired from waiting, so see who gets more impatient first. \:D ] ;B[qf]BL[1554.72];W[mp]WL[1419.35];B[kp]BL[1521.81];W[po]WL[1408]C[pront [5k\]\: hehe rider [4k\]\: I don't like J15, a lot of aji for very little purpose. Capture or H16 feels better. ] ;B[qo]BL[1438.55];W[qn]WL[1391.34];B[pp]BL[1413.55]C[pront [5k\]\: yeah, I like G16. ] ;W[oo]WL[1346]C[pront [5k\]\: Civ is 2k now. zeze ];B[np]BL[1381.31]C[rider [4k\]\: Yes, he's improved a lot. pront [5k\]\: I used to kick his ass easily. rider [4k\]\: Same. \:) ] ;W[no]WL[1326.87]C[pront [5k\]\: now He will kick my ass if we meet. \:( rider [4k\]\: Back on NNGS, I don't think I've lost to him. But now, he'll kick me. rider [4k\]\: \:D pront [5k\]\: hehe pront [5k\]\: going to rest for 20 min. rider [4k\]\: I think we should still have 25% chance at least ba. \:) pront [5k\]\: see you guys later. rider [4k\]\: later. ] ;B[nq]BL[1328.54];W[pi]WL[1247.77]C[armodilla [2d?\]\: Civ is quite strong, not only 2k ah ] ;B[mo]BL[1294.95]C[Civ [2k\]\: mi hun soup? ];W[mn]WL[1210.23];B[lo]BL[1292.67] ;W[oj]WL[1204.79];B[rn]BL[1270.14];W[ro]WL[1182.45];B[qp]BL[1268.43];W[rm]WL[1174] ;B[nn]BL[1253.01];W[pm]WL[1137.38];B[nm]BL[1224.32];W[kn]WL[1114.44]C[armodilla [2d?\]\: The beginning showed Civ is at least 4d ] ;B[ok]BL[1137.86]C[armodilla [2d?\]\: probably he is 2k because he is weak in middle and ending? ] ;W[mj]WL[1092.03];B[mk]BL[1123.03];W[ml]WL[1001.92];B[nk]BL[1048.29];W[nl]WL[973.549] ;B[lj]BL[1018.33];W[mi]WL[914.601];B[ol]BL[993.575];W[om]WL[900.572];B[ll]BL[980.084] ;W[mm]WL[894.784];B[ln]BL[974.335];W[on]WL[886.624];B[lm]BL[969.534];W[pb]WL[873.601] ;B[qj]BL[901.409];W[qi]WL[839.319];B[qc]BL[895.46];W[dn]WL[836.539]C[andyusa [5d\]\: barry improved a lot recently, I have to say ] ;B[md]BL[751.988];W[nd]WL[813.214];B[ne]BL[748.235];W[me]WL[809.317];B[oh]BL[707.234] ;W[nf]WL[787.767];B[oe]BL[695.518];W[mf]WL[754.944];B[nj]BL[650.705];W[cf]WL[681.755] ;B[cl]BL[570.459];W[bn]WL[661.447];B[ci]BL[556.42];W[bb]WL[652.051];B[ba]BL[554.277] ;W[be]WL[642.442];B[ab]BL[515.998];W[el]WL[632.98];B[ek]BL[475.162];W[fk]WL[631.317] ;B[ej]BL[451.143];W[fj]WL[628.304];B[fi]BL[424.18];W[gi]WL[588.663];B[fh]BL[416.452] ;W[dl]WL[574.408];B[ck]BL[401.778];W[pg]WL[568.692];B[qg]BL[312.451];W[ph]WL[555.012] ;B[og]BL[288.405];W[of]WL[485.318];B[pf]BL[265.798];W[oi]WL[483.143];B[qb]BL[207.606] ;W[ob]WL[424.854];B[eq]BL[191.418];W[dr]WL[395.413];B[ep]BL[176.261];W[hq]WL[335.676] ;B[co]BL[157.85]C[tywin [2d\]\: e2 now ];W[bo]WL[252.143];B[er]BL[120.303];W[ho] WL[189.015];B[cp]BL[93.864];W[bq]WL[154.094];OB[5]B[gp]BL[60];W[jq]WL[121.656];OB[5] B[hp]BL[60];W[ip]WL[106.964];OB[5]B[io]BL[60];W[gq]WL[93.997]C[rider [4k\]\: Civ now going to show his MKL skill. ] ;OB[5]B[go]BL[60];W[hn]WL[89.021];OB[5]B[jp]BL[60];W[iq]WL[85.842];OB[4]B[gn]BL[60] ;W[hm]WL[64.914];OB[4]B[jo]BL[60];W[fr]WL[61.424];OB[4]B[ds]BL[60];W[cq]WL[7.284] ;OB[4]B[gm]BL[60];OW[5]W[hl]WL[60];OB[4]B[fl]BL[60];OW[5]W[gk]WL[60];OB[4]B[cm] BL[60];OW[4]W[cn]WL[60];OB[4]B[dm]BL[60];OW[4]W[eo]WL[60];OB[4]B[em]BL[60];OW[4] W[fp]WL[60];OB[4]B[fq]BL[60];OW[4]W[fo]WL[60];OB[4]B[gr]BL[60];OW[4]W[fs]WL[60] ;OB[4]B[gs]BL[60];OW[4]W[hr]WL[60];OB[4]B[es]BL[60]C[rider [4k\]\: Can black win this semeai? ] ;OW[4]W[lr]WL[60];OB[4]B[lq]BL[60];OW[4]W[kr]WL[60];OB[4]B[mr]BL[60];OW[3]W[hs] WL[60]C[rider [4k\]\: B1? rider [4k\]\: get one more lib. rider [4k\]\: but no .. have to K1 first. \:( ] ;OB[3]B[bs]BL[60]C[pront [5k\]\: B not good... rider [4k\]\: Yeah, now w K1 alive. ] ;OW[3]W[cs]WL[60]C[rider [4k\]\: C2 rider [4k\]\: ko better for black. ];OB[3]B[hj] BL[60];OW[3]W[hi]WL[60];OB[3]B[ij]BL[60]C[pront [5k\]\: give up? ];OW[3]W[ii]WL[60] ;OB[3]B[jj]BL[60]C[rider [4k\]\: find more ko threats before C2? ];OW[3]W[gj]WL[60] C[pront [5k\]\: Is it useful? ];OB[2]B[hf]BL[60]C[rider [4k\]\: don't think so. rider [4k\]\: but MKL doesn't have to be useful. \:D ] ;OW[3]W[if]WL[60];OB[2]B[ig]BL[60];OW[3]W[jg]WL[60]C[pront [5k\]\: Civ is strong ah ] ;OB[2]B[gd]BL[60];OW[3]W[ge]WL[60];OB[2]B[hg]BL[60];OW[3]W[jh]WL[60];OB[2]B[hd] BL[60];OW[3]W[he]WL[60];OB[2]B[id]BL[60]C[rider [4k\]\: yes, barry refuse to acknowledge threats like H14. ] ;OW[3]W[ib]WL[60]C[rider [4k\]\: suffers ah. ];OB[2]B[hb]BL[60];OW[3]W[ha]WL[60] ;OB[2]B[ic]BL[60];OW[3]W[jb]WL[60];OB[2]B[hb]BL[60];OW[3]W[ga]WL[60];OB[2]B[ia] BL[60];OW[3]W[hc]WL[60];OB[2]B[kc]BL[60];OW[3]W[kb]WL[60];OB[2]B[hb]BL[60];OW[3] W[ja]WL[60];OB[2]B[fa]BL[60]C[rider [4k\]\: F19 ];OW[3]W[hc]WL[60];OB[2]B[lb]BL[60] C[rider [4k\]\: Nice punishment by Civ ah. \:) rider [4k\]\: now even O17 can be killed rider [4k\]\: Then win le. ] ;OW[3]W[jc]WL[60];OB[2]B[hb]BL[60]C[rider [4k\]\: test if white greedy. \:P ];OW[3] W[jd]WL[60];OB[2]B[ia]BL[60]C[rider [4k\]\: hoho .. white give up half. rider [4k\]\: close game. ] ;OW[3]W[ce]WL[60];OB[2]B[mc]BL[60]C[rider [4k\]\: wow. ];OW[3]W[mb]WL[60]C[rider [4k\]\: now black wants to win it all. rider [4k\]\: not possible ba. ] ;OB[2]B[ma]BL[60];OW[3]W[nb]WL[60]C[rider [4k\]\: L16 rider [4k\]\: \:D rider [4k\]\: no us. rider [4k\]\: M11 reduce ba alal [3d?\]\: a17 lah ] ;OB[2]B[cr]BL[60]C[rider [4k\]\: Oh ya. \:) rider [4k\]\: That'll be enough actually. ] ;OW[3]W[dp]WL[60]C[rider [4k\]\: That's 10 points. ];OB[2]B[js]BL[60]C[rider [4k\]\: is this valid? alal [3d?\]\: probably more than 10 alal [3d?\]\: k1? i don't think so ] ;OW[3]W[kq]WL[60]C[rider [4k\]\: it's 4 libs if white don't want to ko. ];OB[2] B[ls]BL[60];OW[3]W[ks]WL[60]C[rider [4k\]\: I think it's good ah. rider [4k\]\: N1 ] ;OB[2]B[ms]BL[60];OW[3]W[fr]WL[60]C[rider [4k\]\: hoho. \:) rider [4k\]\: white must ko now rider [4k\]\: F1 ba alal [3d?\]\: well rider [4k\]\: ko rider [4k\]\: white must win ko. ] ;OB[2]B[fs]BL[60];OW[3]W[br]WL[60]C[rider [4k\]\: white can get small profit. alal [3d?\]\: still should a17 first rider [4k\]\: J2 rider [4k\]\: ko rider [4k\]\: \:D alal [3d?\]\: lai pi jie rider [4k\]\: Don't be shy, can ko. \:) ] ;OB[2]B[ac]BL[60]C[rider [4k\]\: He hears you .. J2 can do later. ];OW[3]W[rh]WL[60] C[rider [4k\]\: unfortunately, O18 group not enough libs to threat. ];OB[2]B[ni] BL[60];OW[3]W[nh]WL[60];OB[2]B[mh]BL[60];OW[3]W[mg]WL[60];OB[2]B[lh]BL[60];OW[3] W[se]WL[60];OB[2]B[re]BL[60];OW[3]W[sg]WL[60]C[alal [3d?\]\: no if b wants ko, have to j2 first ] ;OB[2]B[sd]BL[60];OW[3]W[sf]WL[60]C[alal [3d?\]\: else w a2, 1 lib faster ];OB[2] B[rc]BL[60];OW[3]W[rp]WL[60];OB[2]B[rq]BL[60];OW[3]W[gg]WL[60];OB[2]B[ar]BL[60] ;OW[3]W[cs]WL[60]C[pront [5k\]\: yeah I wonder why W doesn't A2? alal [3d?\]\: no need pront [5k\]\: oh? alal [3d?\]\: w has many lib ] ;OB[2]B[ng]BL[60];OW[3]W[nh]WL[60]C[rider [4k\]\: no ba .. now black can ko and ko and ko. ] ;OB[2]B[cr]BL[60]C[rider [4k\]\: \:D alal [3d?\]\: no ];OW[3]W[aq]WL[60]C[rider [4k\]\: oh. rider [4k\]\: ya. alal [3d?\]\: wa3 ] ;OB[2]B[ir]BL[60]C[rider [4k\]\: 3 vs 3? ];OW[3]W[cs]WL[60]C[rider [4k\]\: no. rider [4k\]\: 3 vs 2. rider [4k\]\: \:( ] ;OB[2]B[gl]BL[60];OW[3]W[hk]WL[60]C[alal [3d?\]\: b can't win this alal [3d?\]\: a2 bad ] ;OB[2]B[cr]BL[60]C[alal [3d?\]\: should just j2 ];OW[3]W[as]WL[60];OB[2]B[is]BL[60] ;OW[3]W[jr]WL[60]C[alal [3d?\]\: no use alal [3d?\]\: a2 bah alal [3d?\]\: oh he can't ] ;OB[2]B[ff]BL[60]C[alal [3d?\]\: useless anyway ];OW[3]W[fe]WL[60];OB[2]B[sp]BL[60] ;OW[3]W[sn]WL[60];OB[2]B[gf]BL[60];OW[3]W[op]WL[60];OB[2]B[bg]BL[60];OW[3]W[oq] WL[60];OB[2]B[or]BL[60];OW[3]W[pr]WL[60];OB[2]B[qq]BL[60];OW[3]W[os]WL[60];OB[2] B[nr]BL[60];OW[3]W[qr]WL[60];OB[2]B[rr]BL[60];OW[3]W[rs]WL[60];OB[2]B[qs]BL[60] ;OW[3]W[ps]WL[60];OB[2]B[sr]BL[60];OW[3]W[so]WL[60];OB[2]B[lp]BL[60]C[pront [5k\]\: not easy for B now. \:) ] ;OW[3]W[sq]WL[60];OB[2]B[is]BL[60];OW[3]W[cs]WL[60];OB[2]B[sp]BL[60];OW[3]W[fm] WL[60]C[rider [4k\]\: f6 ba rider [4k\]\: it's atari ah. ];OB[2]B[dk]BL[60]C[rider [4k\]\: ft ] ;OW[3]W[sq]WL[60];OB[2]B[ir]BL[60];OW[3]W[fr]WL[60];OB[2]B[sp]BL[60];OW[3]W[el] WL[60];OB[2]B[fn]BL[60];OW[3]W[sq]WL[60]C[rider [4k\]\: why not ft earlier on? ] ;OB[2]B[ji]BL[60];OW[3]W[ih]WL[60];OB[2]B[sp]BL[60];OW[3]W[en]WL[60];OB[2]B[dl] BL[60];OW[3]W[sq]WL[60]C[alal [3d?\]\: anyway, civ played no bad ];OB[2]B[de]BL[60] ;OW[3]W[ef]WL[60];OB[2]B[sp]BL[60];OW[3]W[fg]WL[60];OB[2]B[mq]BL[60];OW[3]W[sq] WL[60]C[andyusa [4d\]\: ??? rider [4k\]\: black win if got corner? alal [3d?\]\: no alal [3d?\]\: w leads ] ;OB[2]B[dg]BL[60];OW[3]W[df]WL[60];OB[2]B[sp]BL[60];OW[3]W[ak]WL[60]C[andyusa [4d\]\: G18? ] ;OB[2]B[am]BL[60];OW[3]W[sq]WL[60]C[alal [3d?\]\: w doesn't need to win the ko andyusa [4d\]\: L11 andyusa [4d\]\: win the ko is better alal [3d?\]\: right alal [3d?\]\: k15 ] ;OB[2]B[je]BL[60]C[alal [3d?\]\: last two alal [3d?\]\: or maybe 3 ];OW[3]W[ke] WL[60];OB[2]B[sp]BL[60];OW[3]W[bm]WL[60];OB[2]B[ns]BL[60];OW[3]W[ai]WL[60];OB[2] B[bl]BL[60];OW[3]W[al]WL[60];OB[2]B[bj]BL[60];OW[3]W[aj]WL[60];OB[1]B[bh]BL[60] ;OW[3]W[cg]WL[60];OB[1]B[eg]BL[60];OW[3]W[gh]WL[60];OB[1]B[ei]BL[60];OW[3]W[rj] WL[60];OB[1]B[rk]BL[60];OW[3]W[sk]WL[60];OB[1]B[sl]BL[60];OW[3]W[sj]WL[60];OB[1] B[rl]BL[60];OW[3]W[ql]WL[60]C[rider [4k\]\: Civ lost, need a big spoon. \:) ];OB[1] B[qk]BL[60]C[rider [4k\]\: but unfortunately, he's playing barry, not tuzi. \:P ] ;OW[3]W[sm]WL[60]C[rider [4k\]\: Q8 rider [4k\]\: \:D ];OB[1]B[lg]BL[60];OW[3]W[kf] WL[60];OB[1]B[ch]BL[60];OW[3]W[jm]WL[60];OB[1]B[jl]BL[60];OW[3]W[il]WL[60];OB[1] B[ae]BL[60];OW[3]W[hh]WL[60];OB[1]B[pa]BL[60];OW[3]W[oa]WL[60];OB[1]B[od]BL[60] ;OW[3]W[qa]WL[60];OB[1]B[ra]BL[60];OW[3]W[ld]WL[60]C[rider [4k\]\: barry scared of ko again. \:D ] ;OB[1]B[jk]BL[60];OW[3]W[af]WL[60];OB[1]B[bf]BL[60];OW[3]W[ad]WL[60];OB[1]B[in] BL[60];OW[3]W[im]WL[60];OB[1]B[ae]BL[60];OW[3]W[rd]WL[60];OB[1]B[qd]BL[60];OW[3] W[ad]WL[60];OB[1]B[pl]BL[60];OW[3]W[qm]WL[60];OB[1]B[ae]BL[60];OW[3]W[dh]WL[60] ;OB[1]B[eh]BL[60];OW[3]W[ad]WL[60];OB[1]B[nn]BL[60];OW[3]W[nm]WL[60];OB[1]B[ae] BL[60];OW[3]W[sq]WL[60];OB[1]B[qs]BL[60];OW[3]W[ad]WL[60];OB[1]B[si]BL[60];OW[3] W[ri]WL[60];OB[1]B[ae]BL[60];OW[3]W[sc]WL[60];OB[1]B[sb]BL[60];OW[3]W[ad]WL[60] C[pront [5k\]\: kao, already 350 moves pront [5k\]\: would this be the most moves for this tournament? andyusa [4d\]\: very likely pront [5k\]\: Kokoko andyusa [4d\]\: I predict 380+ moves ] ;OB[1]B[ha]BL[60];OW[3]W[ae]WL[60];OB[1]B[km]BL[60]C[andyusa [4d\]\: damn pront [5k\]\: Most empty spaces on the board were dead stones andyusa [4d\]\: should continue koing ] ;OW[3]W[kh]WL[60];OB[1]B[jn]BL[60];OW[3]W[ki]WL[60];OB[1]B[li]BL[60];OW[3]W[kj] WL[60];OB[1]B[kk]BL[60];OW[3]W[lf]WL[60];OB[1]B[rg]BL[60];OW[3]W[sp]WL[60];OB[1] B[pa]BL[60];OW[3]W[bc]WL[60];OB[1]B[cc]BL[60];OW[3]W[qa]WL[60];OB[1]B[rf]BL[60] ;OW[3]W[sh]WL[60];OB[1]B[pa]BL[60];OW[3]W[gb]WL[60];OB[1]B[ga]BL[60];OW[3]W[qa] WL[60];OB[1]B[kd]BL[60];OW[3]W[lc]WL[60];OB[1]B[pa]BL[60];OW[3]W[kg]WL[60];OB[1] B[ah]BL[60];OW[3]W[qa]WL[60];OB[1]B[bk]BL[60];OW[3]W[an]WL[60];OB[1]B[pa]BL[60] ;OW[3]W[oc]WL[60];OB[1]B[pc]BL[60];OW[3]W[qa]WL[60];OB[1]B[bi]BL[60];OW[3]W[am] WL[60];OB[1]B[pa]BL[60];OW[3]W[qh]WL[60];OB[1]B[pj]BL[60]C[alal [3d?\]\: hehe, good ] ;OW[3]W[qa]WL[60]C[alal [3d?\]\: 391 already ];OB[1]B[ng]BL[60];OW[3]W[og]WL[60] ;OB[1]B[pa]BL[60];OW[3]W[ik]WL[60];OB[1]B[ag]BL[60];OW[3]W[qa]WL[60];OB[1]B[ff] BL[60];OW[3]W[gf]WL[60];OB[1]B[pa]BL[60];OW[3]W[tt]WL[60];OB[1]B[qa]BL[60]C[alal [3d?\]\: wow, 403 ] ;OW[3]W[tt]WL[60]C[andyusa [4d\]\: wow ];OB[1]B[tt]BL[60]TB[ea][fm][aa][ca][da] [sa][bb][db][gb][rb][bc][hc][sc][rd][pe][qe][dh][di][mi][cj][dj][mj][lk][el][kl] [kn][ko][mp][pr][qr][os][ps][rs][ss]TW[cr][er][gr][ir][kd][ds][es][fs][gs][is][js] [ka][la][ma][bs][na][lb][kc][mc][md][de][ee][je][le][ff][hf][jf][hg][ig][ng][oh] [si][nn][pn][rn][bp][ao][co][do][ap][cp][ep][eq][fq][ar]C[Civ [2k\]\: thx armodilla [2d?\]\: Thank you so much Civ [2k\]\: such a long game alal [3d?\]\: record long armodilla [2d?\]\: Your morale is great Civ [2k\]\: MKL armodilla [2d?\]\: you are nice man alal [3d?\]\: right, that's the spirit Civ [2k\]\: My middle and end game is as bad as you expected armodilla [2d?\]\: you can win but you choose the risk to lose armodilla [2d?\]\: Thank you for playing with me Civ [2k\]\: thank you Civ [2k\]\: too late, I have to go. Can you contact fool about the game, barry? armodilla [2d?\]\: fool had switched knightseu and me Civ [2k\]\: good. have to go to sleep. see you. armodilla [2d?\]\: you are so nice a player\\ pront [5k\]\: I made the change pront [5k\]\: oooops, armodilla [2d?\]\: you should get the Olympic sport spirit award pront [5k\]\: I have thought W is Civ.... armodilla [2d?\]\: I will argue to set a Olympic sport spirit award for you ])