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(;GM[1]FF[4]CA[gb2312]AP[CGoban:3]ST[2] RU[Japanese]SZ[19]KM[6.50]TM[3600]OT[5x60 byo-yomi] PW[goduke]PB[JumboEgg]WR[6d]DT[2006-09-30]PC[The KGS Go Server at http://www.gokgs.com/]C[goduke [6d\]: hi JumboEgg [?\]: hey JumboEgg [?\]: enjoy the game goduke [6d\]: u 2 ]RE[W+Resign] ;B[pd]BL[3542.848] ;W[qp]WL[3586.84] ;B[cd]BL[3501.48]C[happyloser [2d?\]: hi all! This is angryfist vs mulan right? ] ;W[cp]WL[3516.16] ;B[oq]BL[3495.28] ;W[lp]WL[3482.294]C[windy [-\]: hi happyloser ] ;B[ql]BL[3455.946]C[windy [-\]: you played xi11west in the first round, was he strong? decamp [5d\]: hehe, few ppl strong b4 happyloser :-) happyloser [2d?\]: Everybody is strong ah ] ;W[op]WL[3421.704]C[happyloser [2d?\]: yes you need to be careful decamp [5d\]: the stronger, the more modest :-) ] ;B[qi]BL[3436.153]C[windy [-\]: oh really happyloser [2d?\]: play as if you don't know how strong he is, that's my answer sasker [5d\]: very true windy [-\]: oh ] ;W[ed]WL[3367.336]C[windy [-\]: well, i don't want to lost early windy [-\]: lose ] ;B[hd]BL[3410.735]C[windy [-\]: sigh happyloser [2d?\]: I like black right now ] ;W[df]WL[3314.976] ;B[ee]BL[3398.101]C[happyloser [2d?\]: see white didn't choose D13, instead he chose D14, to avoid trouble bottom right. happyloser [2d?\]: BTW, I'm now actively playing the role of teacher han ] ;W[de]WL[3256.521] ;B[dd]BL[3396.245] ;W[fd]WL[3250.904]C[happyloser [2d?\]: but white gain sente windy [-\]: interesting joseki ] ;B[ef]BL[3379.702]C[happyloser [2d?\]: oh ! wow! windy [-\]: ChangHao played this joseki twice in the China TianYuan decamp [5d\]: guess w is a bit out of pace windy [-\]: and he lost because of this joseki decamp [5d\]: he needs a move at right lower decamp [5d\]: i feel b has a more light mind in this game ] ;W[be]WL[3172.931]C[windy [-\]: O3 or Q3? inu22 [23k?\]: i say o windy [-\]: for b windy [-\]: for w i mean inu22 [23k?\]: i'd try to drive him to the corner decamp [5d\]: teacher han, pls make ur comment happyloser [2d?\]: Q3 I'll choos inu22 [23k?\]: for white> windy [-\]: O3 bad aji ] ;B[dg]BL[3280.523]C[inu22 [23k?\]: its bad? happyloser [2d?\]: O3 needs some confidence to control what's going on happyloser [2d?\]: I'm not that strong enough windy [-\]: very true happyloser [2d?\]: I always choose what i can understand and control(try to) windy [-\]: O3 needs reading and guts inu22 [23k?\]: ah inu22 [23k?\]: well being pretty new, i've got the guts down, but reading has quite emerged well in me yet ] ;W[bd]WL[3085.305]C[daheigou [?\]: why choose so complex joseki ] ;B[ce]BL[3269.477] ;W[cf]WL[3079.669] ;B[bf]BL[3268.089] ;W[cg]WL[3078.065] ;B[bg]BL[3266.493] ;W[ch]WL[3077.022] ;B[bc]BL[3264.752]C[windy [-\]: D13 is weird windy [-\]: not joseki happyloser [2d?\]: D 13 common bah inu22 [23k?\]: common what? windy [-\]: b should C16 first windy [-\]: b should B16 first * happyloser [2d?\]: now black get something first, and test if white get the right moves windy [-\]: but right now b isn't bad decamp [5d\]: i prefer b now ] ;W[he]WL[2943.413]C[decamp [5d\]: w has two places needing moves happyloser [2d?\]: in the following moves, white needs the strongest ones every move, like what he did just now ] ;B[bh]BL[3249.087]C[happyloser [2d?\]: I mean H15 ] ;W[ci]WL[2935.742]C[inu22 [23k?\]: i hink black will keep the to corners and sides, but white will control center and bottom happyloser [2d?\]: black is too greedy happyloser [2d?\]: B12 may give himself a hard time later in the middle fight decamp [5d\]: he fears w b12 decamp [5d\]: it is sente ] ;B[ie]BL[3161.454]C[windy [-\]: why make game complicated happyloser [2d?\]: yes but it strengthen white's outside decamp [5d\]: yes happyloser [2d?\]: I dare not do that decamp [5d\]: hehe decamp [5d\]: but think about w b12 decamp [5d\]: too much influence on left happyloser [2d?\]: see if black give up the 3, white not bad at all decamp [5d\]: agree password [1k\]: maybe black is wrong from the very beginning of the joseki decamp [5d\]: game pretty even happyloser [2d?\]: because in the upleft corner, black's aji is not so finished decamp [5d\]: i don't know the joseki ] ;W[hf]WL[2832.621] ;B[gd]BL[3157.016] ;W[fe]WL[2827.605]C[decamp [5d\]: but if i play ] ;B[if]BL[3151.896]C[decamp [5d\]: i would put e14 to g15 decamp [5d\]: i only know that variation ] ;W[id]WL[2798.963]C[decamp [5d\]: b gonna build top ] ;B[jd]BL[3146.822] ;W[ic]WL[2797.365] ;B[hg]BL[3145.369]C[happyloser [2d?\]: white doesn't want spend a move to kill the 3 even decamp [5d\]: guess J16 helps b decamp [5d\]: coz b got h13 hane ] ;W[gc]WL[2768.491]C[decamp [5d\]: too large ] ;B[jc]BL[3135.986] ;W[ib]WL[2765.958]C[decamp [5d\]: w failed in this fight decamp [5d\]: j13 ] ;B[ff]BL[3121.015]C[decamp [5d\]: b very strong influence ] ;W[gg]WL[2762.484]C[decamp [5d\]: f14? ] ;B[gh]BL[3110.953]C[inu22 [23k?\]: he can't close the hane before white takes the two up top decamp [5d\]: good windy [-\]: b play strong moves now windy [-\]: very 紧
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