(;GM[1]FF[4]CA[gb2312]AP[CGoban:3]ST[2] RU[Chinese]SZ[19]KM[7.50]TM[1800]OT[5x60 byo-yomi] PW[JumboEgg]PB[Civ]BR[3k]DT[2006-09-26]PC[The K Go Server (KGS) at http://www.gokgs.com/]C[Civ [3k\]: hehe. JumboEgg [?\]: hoho ]RE[W+34.50] ;B[pd]BL[1789.016]C[JumboEgg [?\]: enjoy the game ] ;W[dp]WL[1795.715]C[Civ [3k\]: you too ] ;B[pq]BL[1779.475] ;W[dc]WL[1792.328] ;B[fq]BL[1773.622] ;W[ip]WL[1770.213] ;B[cn]BL[1758.528] ;W[fp]WL[1759.283] ;B[cq]BL[1747.494] ;W[eq]WL[1737.357] ;B[cp]BL[1736.438] ;W[do]WL[1734.693] ;B[cm]BL[1708.082] ;W[po]WL[1728.665] ;B[np]BL[1684.15] ;W[qq]WL[1725.285] ;B[qr]BL[1681.242] ;W[qp]WL[1723.664] ;B[or]BL[1677.311] ;W[ql]WL[1720.779] ;B[de]BL[1661.127] ;W[ce]WL[1697.108] ;B[dd]BL[1638.23] ;W[cd]WL[1695.004] ;B[ec]BL[1634.201] ;W[df]WL[1656.121] ;B[cc]BL[1623.414] ;W[db]WL[1654.212] ;B[bc]BL[1589.481] ;W[eb]WL[1637.929] ;B[fd]BL[1558.976] ;W[fc]WL[1634.41] ;B[cf]BL[1552.331] ;W[ed]WL[1631.399] ;B[ee]BL[1548.372] ;W[fe]WL[1629.726] ;B[ef]BL[1546.044] ;W[gd]WL[1628.239] ;B[dg]BL[1538.804] ;W[nc]WL[1626.272] ;B[qf]BL[1528.049] ;W[pb]WL[1611.779] ;B[qc]BL[1477.135] ;W[ld]WL[1548.509] ;B[gg]BL[1453.491] ;W[em]WL[1541.577] ;B[el]BL[1437.195] ;W[fl]WL[1535.498] ;B[ek]BL[1431.085] ;W[fk]WL[1529.544] ;B[fj]BL[1420.307] ;W[fi]WL[1518.443] ;B[ej]BL[1404.958] ;W[gj]WL[1512.351] ;B[hj]BL[1389.272] ;W[gi]WL[1504.021] ;B[hl]BL[1377.582] ;W[ei]WL[1500.686] ;B[gk]BL[1372.285] ;W[gl]WL[1495.879] ;B[hk]BL[1369.824] ;W[fg]WL[1475.172] ;B[di]BL[1358.828] ;W[dh]WL[1466.888] ;B[fm]BL[1331.187] ;W[gm]WL[1464.513] ;B[fn]BL[1328.448] ;W[gn]WL[1463.252] ;B[en]BL[1305.01] ;W[ch]WL[1424.362] ;B[ff]BL[1276.299] ;W[gf]WL[1422.089] ;B[fh]BL[1270.918] ;W[gh]WL[1419.398] ;B[eg]BL[1252.958] ;W[hg]WL[1417.431] ;B[hf]BL[1240.275] ;W[fg]WL[1414.946] ;B[eh]BL[1239.426] ;W[dj]WL[1359.323] ;B[gg]BL[1229.772] ;W[ge]WL[1357.393]C[WreakIing [10k?\]: I'm rooting for Civ. :D ] ;B[cg]BL[1181.025]C[WreakIing [10k?\]: Seems like I always root for underdog. :D ] ;W[ci]WL[1304.044]C[jadefish [?\]: uno, jumboegg is mulan ] ;B[ck]BL[1137.938] ;W[ih]WL[1291.66] ;B[go]BL[1127.768] ;W[gq]WL[1273.901] ;B[ho]BL[1112.123] ;W[qh]WL[1260.426] ;B[qb]BL[1095.922] ;W[lq]WL[1256.931]C[WreakIing [10k?\]: Black doing good so far. :) WreakIing [10k?\]: I like black's position. WreakIing [10k?\]: Ignore SE. :) ] ;B[qj]BL[1056.866] ;W[pf]WL[1249.612] ;B[rr]BL[1039.563]C[WreakIing [10k?\]: Small! .. need to get out into K16 area. :( WreakIing [10k?\]: Now white can threaten Q16 group and form wall around it. ] ;W[qe]WL[1208.051] ;B[pe]BL[1033.13] ;W[rf]WL[1205.884]C[WreakIing [10k?\]: Run. :) ] ;B[of]BL[1014.551] ;W[qg]WL[1203.655]C[WreakIing [10k?\]: P14 and run into white's moyo. :P ] ;B[pk]BL[1000.096]C[WreakIing [10k?\]: Dunno what white is thinking, should Q15 I feel, instead of hane. WreakIing [10k?\]: Er .. ] ;W[no]WL[1192.185] ;B[pg]BL[994.794] ;W[ph]WL[1186.604]C[WreakIing [10k?\]: Ft .. all random play. :D ] ;B[qf]BL[985.97] ;W[pl]WL[1181.556]C[WreakIing [10k?\]: Meaningless ko. ] ;B[nk]BL[981.312]C[WreakIing [10k?\]: Should just O15 protect and run into white's moyo. ] ;W[ok]WL[1170.126] ;B[oj]BL[978.034] ;W[ol]WL[1168.332] ;B[oh]BL[975.857] ;W[ri]WL[1110.661] ;B[rj]BL[960.938] ;W[rd]WL[1107.74] ;B[qd]BL[949.684] ;W[pf]WL[1105.37]C[WreakIing [10k?\]: ohoh .. white defend first, attack later .. black be careful. ] ;B[hh]BL[941.042] ;W[hi]WL[1064.02] ;B[qf]BL[939.231]C[WreakIing [10k?\]: White don't have to answer .. that group smaller than killing all of black. But white greedy and want more. :D ] ;W[pi]WL[1052.095]C[xyh1969 [4d\]: wreaking, what's your old id? jadefish [?\]: uno :P WreakIing [10k?\]: xyh .. uno here lah. :) xyh1969 [4d\]: y xyh1969 [4d\]: my memoery is so bad xyh1969 [4d\]: i know it is you WreakIing [10k?\]: see gege and never greet. :D ] ;B[re]BL[879.786] ;W[pj]WL[1043.194]C[xyh1969 [4d\]: uno gg hao WreakIing [10k?\]: WreakIing [10k?\]: :D xyh1969 [4d\]: ft ] ;B[lp]BL[850.842] ;W[mq]WL[1035.41]C[WreakIing [10k?\]: So you still in school or graduated? ] ;B[mp]BL[833.159] ;W[kp]WL[1015.821] ;B[nq]BL[819.939]C[jadefish [?\]: so uno doesn't know why we are playing the tournament ] ;W[kq]WL[1005.944]C[xyh1969 [4d\]: hehe WreakIing [10k?\]: I know it's xyh cup .. but dunno why. :( WreakIing [10k?\]: So tell me, jadefish .. why? jadefish [?\]: xyh is here ya, u ask him ya WreakIing [10k?\]: xyh, why? WreakIing [10k?\]: But I know xyh .. he'll be too shy to answer, so you answer for him, jadefish. ] ;B[kf]BL[774.475] ;W[ng]WL[997.193] ;B[og]BL[734.383] ;W[lg]WL[993.173] ;B[kd]BL[719.826] ;W[le]WL[986.13] ;B[lc]BL[713.485] ;W[mc]WL[981.015]C[WreakIing [10k?\]: Now if only black can make life, black wins. :) WreakIing [10k?\]: Go Civ! :) WreakIing [10k?\]: It won't be easy though. :P ] ;B[ig]BL[661.833] ;W[jg]WL[963.906] ;B[hh]BL[643.991] ;W[if]WL[948.981] ;B[hg]BL[635.815] ;W[he]WL[947.213] ;B[fg]BL[634.553]C[jadefish [?\]: mulan not in the zhuangtai? ] ;W[ji]WL[940.957]C[WreakIing [10k?\]: Civ is good. :) ] ;B[jf]BL[624.492] ;W[ie]WL[938.586]C[WreakIing [10k?\]: atari and run out ] ;B[kg]BL[608.55] ;W[jh]WL[936.336]C[jadefish [?\]: l15 duan dian ya ] ;B[lh]BL[577.266] ;W[ke]WL[932.194]C[WreakIing [10k?\]: Black don't need all. WreakIing [10k?\]: White H11 not yet alive. ] ;B[kh]BL[555.124] ;W[kj]WL[929.314] ;B[ij]BL[552.119]C[xyh1969 [4d\]: uno, i am going back to China, that's why ] ;W[ii]WL[927.03]C[xifeng [6d?\]: we gather to congratulate that xyh got his third wife WreakIing [10k?\]: Oh. Found job in China? WreakIing [10k?\]: Oh .. because China allows multiple wives? WreakIing [10k?\]: Can also go Utah ah. :) ] ;B[kl]BL[507.821]C[xyh1969 [4d\]: :) ] ;W[lk]WL[901.585]C[WreakIing [10k?\]: China is not bad, I was looking for jobs in China a few years back, but can't find. ] ;B[lf]BL[482.503] ;W[oi]WL[889.36]C[WreakIing [10k?\]: Even if it's simple job as translator, since I speak both language fluently. :D ] ;B[je]BL[406.291] ;W[jd]WL[863.98] ;B[kc]BL[394.92] ;W[ne]WL[848.791]C[WreakIing [10k?\]: Nice. :) WreakIing [10k?\]: J16 capture connect. WreakIing [10k?\]: Oh .. no .. read wrong. *blush* WreakIing [10k?\]: No gas. ] ;B[id]BL[358.448] ;W[jc]WL[847.111] ;B[jb]BL[356.307] ;W[ic]WL[845.756]C[jadefish [?\]: fool? ] ;B[ib]BL[355.282] ;W[hc]WL[844.917]C[WreakIing [10k?\]: Wow. :) ] ;B[mb]BL[338.475] ;W[nb]WL[842.62]C[jadefish [?\]: can't make alive there ba? WreakIing [10k?\]: White outside not alive also. ] ;B[ka]BL[305.002] ;W[lb]WL[838.597]C[WreakIing [10k?\]: OO WreakIing [10k?\]: Ft Civ [3k\]: ah oo JumboEgg [?\]: hehe WreakIing [10k?\]: undo! WreakIing [10k?\]: clicko .. was M19. :D jadefish [?\]: m19 can't alive either ba? ] ;B[nf]BL[270.824]C[WreakIing [10k?\]: But can get gas to fight? ] ;W[bk]WL[824.72]C[jadefish [?\]: right WreakIing [10k?\]: M19 is at least forcing. ] ;B[bl]BL[254.5] ;W[dk]WL[817.981]C[jadefish [?\]: so, uno, u have score est.? ] ;B[dl]BL[250.303] ;W[cj]WL[816.478]C[jadefish [?\]: who is winning? ] ;B[cl]BL[243.517] ;W[dr]WL[810.828] ;B[bj]BL[228.61]C[jadefish [?\]: mulan is playing guanzi la? jadefish [?\]: b11 and then b2? ] ;W[im]WL[754.661]C[WreakIing [10k?\]: Civ got what he wants .. lose by less than 40. But put up a good fight. :) WreakIing [10k?\]: Civ has to learn from alal .. how to win against odds. :) ] ;B[hm]BL[205.596] ;W[in]WL[749.372] ;B[hn]BL[203.416] ;W[ll]WL[740.976]C[jadefish [?\]: oic ] ;B[so]BL[170.011] ;W[sq]WL[730.085] ;B[rq]BL[158.148] ;W[rp]WL[728.092] ;B[sp]BL[156.234] ;W[sn]WL[725.694] ;B[sr]BL[152.827] ;W[ro]WL[724.366] ;B[sq]BL[151.19] ;W[qn]WL[709.985]C[WreakIing [10k?\]: A9 sente? ] ;B[ln]BL[126.728]C[jadefish [?\]: fool? ] ;W[km]WL[690.034] ;B[io]BL[116.929]C[WreakIing [10k?\]: Black's guan zi is good. :) ] ;W[mi]WL[643.145] ;B[mr]BL[56.656] ;W[lr]WL[639.106]C[WreakIing [10k?\]: A9 first I'd say. ] ;B[nn]BL[39.859] ;W[se]WL[630.575]C[WreakIing [10k?\]: S13? WreakIing [10k?\]: ko for win? :D WreakIing [10k?\]: Got enough threats? ] ;B[rg]BL[60]OB[5] ;W[qe]WL[626.953]C[WreakIing [10k?\]: Go Civ! :) jadefish [?\]: uno, fool is playing another tournament game WreakIing [10k?\]: :) ] ;B[jj]BL[60]OB[5] ;W[ki]WL[622.944]C[WreakIing [10k?\]: I'm cheering for Civ, not watching others. :) ] ;B[re]BL[60]OB[5] ;W[bg]WL[618.015]C[WreakIing [10k?\]: I think Civ got a good chance now. ] ;B[be]BL[60]OB[5] ;W[qe]WL[614.086]C[WreakIing [10k?\]: Just need to find big enough threats. :P WreakIing [10k?\]: M19, but result might be more dangerous. ] ;B[hq]BL[60]OB[5] ;W[iq]WL[611.019]C[WreakIing [10k?\]: OO ] ;B[re]BL[60]OB[5] ;W[co]WL[608.859]C[WreakIing [10k?\]: Can't give that up either .. still lose. WreakIing [10k?\]: Have to B5. ] ;B[bo]BL[60]OB[5] ;W[qe]WL[606.154]C[WreakIing [10k?\]: H4 ] ;B[gr]BL[60]OB[5] ;W[fr]WL[600.862]C[WreakIing [10k?\]: OO ] ;B[re]BL[60]OB[5]C[WreakIing [10k?\]: Maybe more threats this way. andyusa [5d\]: I anounce white win! WreakIing [10k?\]: Boooooo..... WreakIing [10k?\]: :) ] ;W[rh]WL[511.607] ;B[sf]BL[60]OB[5] ;W[qa]WL[491.19] ;B[lm]BL[60]OB[5]C[WreakIing [10k?\]: I announce Black wins 0.5 :) jadefish [?\]: who is winning, uno WreakIing [10k?\]: B + 0.5. :) WreakIing [10k?\]: SE now says B+4.5 :P ] ;W[nm]WL[450.359]C[jadefish [?\]: tuzi? jadefish [?\]: who is winning? tuzi [5d?\]: who is jumboegg? jadefish [?\]: decamp, who is winning jadefish [?\]: mulan jadefish [?\]: kick tuzi jadefish [?\]: u so.... tuzi [5d?\]: need to count WreakIing [10k?\]: B is winning, that's quite certain, but W can still catch up a few. andyusa [5d\]: white almost 90 pointas jadefish [?\]: b ne? ] ;B[kk]BL[60]OB[5]C[WreakIing [10k?\]: Add time! Civ needs time. tuzi [5d?\]: w winning I think jadefish [?\]: i don't think mulan will lose tuzi [5d?\]: no need to look WreakIing [10k?\]: C2 now big. jadefish [?\]: oh ] ;W[kn]WL[433.286]C[andyusa [5d\]: black only 70 points jadefish [?\]: ok, i trust you and andy over uno :P WreakIing [10k?\]: Boooooooooo..... :) ] ;B[ml]BL[60]OB[5]C[tuzi [5d?\]: 30pts win WreakIing [10k?\]: 30 pts? ft. tuzi [5d?\]: why u keep asking who wins? tuzi [5d?\]: it is not close ya jadefish [?\]: cause uno said it is close tuzi [5d?\]: uno? jadefish [?\]: i am worried about mulan tuzi [5d?\]: who is uno? WreakIing [10k?\]: It is .. Black will win! :) WreakIing [10k?\]: me uno! :) tuzi [5d?\]: kao ] ;W[mj]WL[388.587]C[tuzi [5d?\]: uno WreakIing [10k?\]: Hello iPod. :) tuzi [5d?\]: u too weak WreakIing [10k?\]: aiyo .. I'm cheering for Civ ma. :) tuzi [5d?\]: can't count clear tuzi [5d?\]: haha tuzi [5d?\]: usually jadefish [?\]: ft WreakIing [10k?\]: Go Civ! :) tuzi [5d?\]: 4d will not lose to 3k bah mitbbsfool [3d\]: high hands WreakIing [10k?\]: 6d lost to 1k yesterday. :) jadefish [?\]: well, alal won mitbbsfool [3d\]: help us review the game ] ;B[lj]BL[60]OB[5]C[WreakIing [10k?\]: Welll .. fake 1k .. alal is 2d, but still an upset. :) ] ;W[li]WL[384.764]C[WreakIing [10k?\]: ft* WreakIing [10k?\]: Why do that? ] ;B[mk]BL[60]OB[5] ;W[lj]WL[379.452]C[WreakIing [10k?\]: Bigger fish at M14 group. :( WreakIing [10k?\]: Civ .. careful! ] ;B[om]BL[60]OB[5] ;W[on]WL[368.754] ;B[mm]BL[60]OB[5]C[WreakIing [10k?\]: Oh .. nevermind .. M14 safe. :P ] ;W[mn]WL[364.079] ;B[nj]BL[60]OB[5] ;W[ni]WL[361.05]C[WreakIing [10k?\]: N5 ] ;B[ko]BL[60]OB[5] ;W[jo]WL[358.349] ;B[lo]BL[60]OB[5] ;W[hp]WL[355.564] ;B[bi]BL[60]OB[5] ;W[bh]WL[347.935]C[WreakIing [10k?\]: J8 ] ;B[il]BL[60]OB[5] ;W[jn]WL[333.51]C[jadefish [?\]: it is sente ] ;B[cr]BL[60]OB[5] ;W[rb]WL[328.324]C[WreakIing [10k?\]: Aiya .. H4 let white take .. otherwise close. :( ] ;B[rc]BL[60]OB[5]C[WreakIing [10k?\]: O10 not important and gote. :( ] ;W[mg]WL[304.962] ;B[mf]BL[60]OB[5] ;W[bb]WL[298.63] ;B[cb]BL[60]OB[5] ;W[ca]WL[295.266] ;B[ab]BL[60]OB[5] ;W[bf]WL[292.936] ;B[bd]BL[60]OB[5] ;W[ba]WL[286.778] ;B[ls]BL[60]OB[5] ;W[ks]WL[282.962] ;B[ms]BL[60]OB[5] ;W[cs]WL[268.713] ;B[bs]BL[60]OB[5] ;W[ds]WL[266.93] ;B[bq]BL[60]OB[5] ;W[ai]WL[241.267] ;B[ak]BL[60]OB[5] ;W[me]WL[238.881] ;B[sb]BL[60]OB[5] ;W[ra]WL[236.442] ;B[qk]BL[60]OB[5]C[WreakIing [10k?\]: OO ] ;W[qi]WL[209.831]C[WreakIing [10k?\]: White not taking chances. :P ] ;B[sh]BL[60]OB[5] ;W[si]WL[206.327] ;B[sd]BL[60]OB[5] ;W[sg]WL[202.324] ;B[pa]BL[60]OB[5] ;W[oa]WL[199.908] ;B[sh]BL[60]OB[5]C[tuzi [5d?\]: uno disappeared a lot ] ;W[od]WL[180.985]C[WreakIing [10k?\]: OO WreakIing [10k?\]: O12 atari. WreakIing [10k?\]: :D WreakIing [10k?\]: 6 points .. not enough. :( ] ;B[dq]BL[60]OB[5] ;W[gp]WL[169.241]C[WreakIing [10k?\]: Why not take 6 points ne? WreakIing [10k?\]: O12 ah. ] ;B[af]BL[60]OB[5]C[WreakIing [10k?\]: White cannot afford to conect N12. ] ;W[sj]WL[162.264] ;B[ag]BL[60]OB[5] ;W[ah]WL[155.466] ;B[ae]BL[60]OB[5] ;W[rk]WL[153] ;B[aj]BL[60]OB[5] ;W[di]WL[149.889]C[WreakIing [10k?\]: Now 6 points disappear. ] ;B[jl]BL[60]OB[5]C[jadefish [?\]: mulan very qingxing ma. I would have made mistake there :P ] ;W[dn]WL[146.105] ;B[dm]BL[60]OB[5] ;W[op]WL[142.232] ;B[fo]BL[60]OB[5] ;W[ep]WL[139.053] ;B[pp]BL[60]OB[5] ;W[sg]WL[119.009]C[WreakIing [10k?\]: I'm blind .. no 6 points at all. WreakIing [10k?\]: *sigh* ] ;B[er]BL[60]OB[5] ;W[es]WL[116.141] ;B[sh]BL[60]OB[5] ;W[pc]WL[103.426] ;B[sg]BL[60]OB[5] ;W[oe]WL[101.051]C[jadefish [?\]: over le? WreakIing [10k?\]: I still think Civ played well. :D WreakIing [10k?\]: Ya. ] ;B[oq]BL[60]OB[5]C[WreakIing [10k?\]: over le. ] ;W[oo]WL[97.538] ;B[jm]BL[60]OB[5] ;W[jp]WL[95.483] ;B[mo]BL[60]OB[5] ;W[nn]WL[93.332]C[jadefish [?\]: uno, u want to join the tournament? jadefish [?\]: it is not too late ] ;B[pf]BL[60]OB[5]C[WreakIing [10k?\]: I too weak. jadefish [?\]: no, it is ok ya jadefish [?\]: they are playing xunhuan ] ;W[]WL[68.641]C[jadefish [?\]: and we need 1 more player now ] ;B[]BL[60]OB[5]TW[da][ea][fa][ga][ha][ia][ja][ka][la][ma][na][pa][fb][gb][hb][ib][jb][kb][mb][ob][ec][gc][kc][lc][oc][fd][hd][id][kd][md][nd][qj][rj][pk][qk][sk][rl][sl][om][pm][qm][rm][sm][pn][rn][qo][fq][hq][jq][er][gr][hr][ir][jr][kr][fs][gs][hs][is][js]TB[ac][sc][ad][cd][rd][ce][qe][se][df][rf][bk][fk][ik][jk][al][fl][gl][am][bm][em][gm][an][bn][gn][ao][ap][bp][aq][ar][br][nr][pr][as][ns][os][ps][qs][rs][ss]C[WreakIing [10k?\]: I'll be a cheer leader for Civ and alal :) jadefish [?\]: ft jadefish [?\]: fly kick jadefish [?\]: u join ba jadefish [?\]: they we made even number players WreakIing [10k?\]: But I'm not even sure when I can logon, not good ah. Civ [3k\]: thanks, mulan Civ [3k\]: almost 40 pts jadefish [?\]: good game :) JumboEgg [?\]: thx WreakIing [10k?\]: You achieve your goal, Civ .. < 40 points. :) tuzi [5d?\]: you see tuzi [5d?\]: 34p JumboEgg [?\]: I played awfully tuzi [5d?\]: I said 30p jadefish [?\]: yeah, u scared me, mulan jadefish [?\]: at the beginning Civ [3k\]: mulan yi de fu ren JumboEgg [?\]: oh, shifu, I scared u? jadefish [?\]: well, civ you played so well in the beginning JumboEgg [?\]: I'll be kicked by tuzi JumboEgg [?\]: mmd, not in good shape WreakIing [10k?\]: egg shape usually not good, especially jumbo ones. :D jadefish [?\]: uno, join the tournament ba JumboEgg [?\]: somewhere I thought I was going to lose jadefish [?\]: cause we have 1 more player reg. just now and we need one more JumboEgg [?\]: Civ played very well JumboEgg [?\]: unfortunately, not at some key moves WreakIing [10k?\]: ask windy. He's high hand. Civ [3k\]: but lost by 35pts, hehe. jadefish [?\]: i thought you would lose too jadefish [?\]: windy already in the tournament JumboEgg [?\]: hehe WreakIing [10k?\]: But you reach your goal, Civ. :) WreakIing [10k?\]: I'm proud of you. :) JumboEgg [?\]: Civ let me run away Civ [3k\]: Do I have chance kill the dragon in the middle? :) JumboEgg [?\]: could be WreakIing [10k?\]: Always chance that opponent spoon. :P JumboEgg [?\]: first one was the F13 ko WreakIing [10k?\]: Especially if it's a big humpty dumpty. :P Civ [3k\]: I did not dare to try because I have 40 pts target in mind JumboEgg [?\]: I almost crashed there JumboEgg [?\]: Civ's C13 was cool Civ [3k\]: review review? JumboEgg [?\]: ask some high hand bah WreakIing [10k?\]: I disagree. JumboEgg [?\]: I'm afraid that I will stink all Civ [3k\]: You are the high hand, mulan WreakIing [10k?\]: Should use C13 as ko threat instead. WreakIing [10k?\]: Should H12 atari first. JumboEgg [?\]: oh, in that case JumboEgg [?\]: C13 wouldn't be a threat anymore WreakIing [10k?\]: Sure it will .. capture those 2 stones still big. ])